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Friday December 5, 2008

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Bali bombers - your say

Posted by: Derryn Hinch | 19 September, 2008 - 2:10 PM
The Bali Bombers

Let's flash back a bit. Remember the Bali bombers and their obscene behaviour in court?

And then there were the interviews. How they couldn't wait to be martyrs. Couldn't wait to die for the cause. They wouldn't appeal against their death sentences because it was all done for the glory of Allah and Nirvana awaited them.

Their deaths would be for such a noble cause. Their sacrifice would live on. So what happened?   Since then they have appealed to every possible court.

And now they are even challenging the constitutionality of the death penalty and claiming that their constitutional and human rights would be violated if they suffered pain while being executed by gunfire.

We want to be martyrs but don't hurt us. Bit like Joan of Arc saying 'Burn me at the stake … but keep a fire hose handy'.

These are the same ruthless killers who didn't give a damn about the pain suffered by their victims who were torn to bits and many of whom suffered agonising days of pain from burns that were eventually fatal. Not to mention the physical and mental pain still suffered by the survivors of the Bali bombings and the loved ones of those who died.

They have turned a desperate last legal effort into a farce before the  Indonesian Constitutional Court. Originally they planned to call East Timorese militia  thug  Eurico Guterres to testify as an expert witness because he had seen people suffering the agony of being shot. I guess the fact that he had often been the shooter made him an expert witness.

In the end they had a Catholic priest, Father Charlie Burrows, give a graphic account of the firing squad execution of two Nigerian heroin traffickers last June.

The priest witnessed the executions and gave grisly details of how the men took seven minutes to die after being shot. Such suffering, and incompetence, is unforgivable even though the hooded prisoners had been strapped to a wooden frame, a target had been pinned above their heart, and they were shot from only a metre away.

But what is being overlooked here is that heroin traffickers in Indonesia know they could be sentenced to death by firing squad. And that includes the Australians on death row.

And in the case of the Bali Bombers: they said they couldn't wait to get to heaven - with or without the 72 promised virgins, I guess - and the sooner they get their wish the better.

Blog comments Your Say

  • I can't believe we are talking about these scrum bags. They should be dead already!

    Stefan Evans Friday 19 September, 2008 - 2:14 PM

  • Stefan,

    It won't just affect these "scrum"bags, this will also have an impact on the method by which the Bali nine members condemned to death are killed ... dying in insufferable pain should never be acceptable, and we should rise above the inhuman and evil actions of men like these and acknowledge that.

    Alex Friday 19 September, 2008 - 2:25 PM

  • Alex,

    I don't know mate. I've been over there a number of times and life is very different.

    Why should we suffer at the hands of a few crazy lunatics!

    I think it sends out a strong message.

    Stefan Evans Friday 19 September, 2008 - 2:32 PM

  • Honestly, weren't these men supposed to have been killed weeks ago. What happened!!?? Get it over with already and give the survivors and their fmailies some closure.

    Greg Friday 19 September, 2008 - 4:58 PM

  • The Australian Coalition Against Death Penalty (ACADP) is opposed to the death penalty in all cases - unconditionally, because it is a barbaric, brutal, cruel, degrading, inhuman and uncivilized act of vengeance - a direct violation of the most fundamental universal human right - the right to life. Human Rights belong to all of us, worldwide. Human rights is not granted nor given to us by Governments and they should have no right to take a human life. There is overwhelming evidence around the world that capital punishment brutalises and degrades a society and actually inspires more acts of violence in an already violent society. Furthermore, capital punishment teaches our young people that it is "OK" to even scores by killing (aka revenge). More importantly, the death penalty creates more victims in society - the innocent family members and loved ones of the executed offenders. ACADP has the deepest sympathy for victims of crime and their families. However, there never has been, nor will there ever be anything "good" achieved by state-sanctioned killing.

    Australian Coalition Against Death Penalty (ACADP) Saturday 20 September, 2008 - 1:42 PM

  • Anyone who supports the execution of these people prove they are just as barbaric as those who are prepared to take another humans life. Stop acting like your any different and realize that death penalty supporters are one and the same. Did the Bali bombers support the death penalty, I bet they did?

    A New Breed Of West Saturday 20 September, 2008 - 3:35 PM

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