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Mitchell, Ouroboros make amends
Ouroboros drummer David Horgan was given the right of reply on the Neil Mitchell Program after the 3AW Mornings host questioned the $20,000 government grant given towards death metal music on yesterday's program.
Asked whether death metal is part of Australian culture, Horgan told Neil it is undoubtedly Australian.
"Death metal has been around for 30 years and it's studied by musicologists who specialise in heavy metal writing. It's an accepted part of the musical landscape," he said.
"You voiced your views in a way that wasn't particularly clear, but you started a debate that I think is an important one to have."
Horgan went on to explain the origins of death metal, the sub-genres of metal and the lyrical content that usually accompanies it.
He also thanked Neil for the enormous amount of exposure his band received yesterday after the story went viral.
However, Neil jokingly remained adamant that death metal vocals resemble the Cookie Monster.
Listen to the chat below.
MONDAY: Death Metal isn't routinely featured on the Neil Mitchell Program, but today the Morning team decided to start the show with a sound clip from Sydney-based death metal band Ouroboros.
Why might you ask?
The Australian government has given this band a $20,000 grant to develop their style of music.
"It's awful stuff, and you're paying for it," Neil said.
One caller said her daughter thought Sesame Street's Cookie Monster had released a new single.
Frank, a death metal host on Community radio, said not all people find value in death metal music, but we should still respect their opinion.
"A lot of people go to the opera and don't understand it, it's the same thing," Frank argued.
Watch the music video and listen to Neil and Frank debate the value of death metal below.
PLAY: Community Radio host Frank says death metal isn't for everyone
I love death metal music, but this guy does sound an awful lot like the cookie monster. Is the $20k for screamo lessons?Luke Thursday 14 June, 2012 - 10:20 AM
If only the world were that simple. Besides, the section of government that gave Ouroboros the grant is only linked a tiny bit to the section that operates school funding. It's not just a band playing music you don't like being funded either, it's also an unknown orchestra, a team of unknowns playing classical instruments, who finally get some work and extra recognition by recording an album that will be heard or bought by one third of the current generation of people. Please don't call death metal rubbish - most tracks in rap, hip-hop, RnB and (nowadays) techno and dubstep all use computer programs and other people's copyrighted music to make the "next big hit" while these guys practice every day to hit the right chord or drum piece at the high speed required.Adrian Monday 4 June, 2012 - 5:09 AM
Yeah, of course the money could have been spent somewhere else. But so could a lot of the money that's been used over all these years, that has been put into entertaining, hosting & "feeding" people like yourself, who are lucky enough to be part of the "corporate lifestyle". Overpriced food and drinks feeding the already wealthy - nice perk hey! That money could have been put towards feeding some homeless that night, right?! Bit hypercritical isn't it?! $20K for being part of the music scene and putting blood, sweat & tears, and EVERY LAST CENT YOU HAVE into it - also a nice perk, and in both cases, well deserved for hard work & determination. Neil, your a very educated man, and have done a hell of a lot for all sorts of charities, communities etc. but you don't and can't know everything. Check out "Metal For The Brain", "The Think Tank" and many many other "Metal" events and organisations that put their profits into research for worthy causes - do ya research or keep your opinion to yourself next time pal... Especially when you know nothing, i repeat "NOTHING" about metal!
By the way - the metal community of Australia sincerely thanks you for the exposure... Any publicly is good publicity, you know that, ya dingleberry :) Thumbs up! Horns up \m/Mikbok Sunday 3 June, 2012 - 3:57 PM
I don't care what the song is about, its total rubbish and I would prefer $20,000 of tax money going to support a school setting up a band or lessons for children with musical talents that cannot otherwise afford them. If the band is so success and making a name for themselves then they don't need the grant do they? Give it to young children creating some positive music and stop with this rubbish.Emily Wednesday 30 May, 2012 - 3:44 PM
@ those last few comments hahahaha I am going on tour and I am making you psy for it eat it Cheryl hahahahaTherivael Wednesday 30 May, 2012 - 2:20 AM
...I would say that the potential employment generated from this enterprise, and the tax revenue gained, will be enough to justify the relatively small gamble of $20k. Many more expensive job-making schemes have come a cropper, without Cheryl wading in to insult everyone involved in the process.
Working for heavy metal bands has paid off my mortgage. It is a legitimate art form, a growth industry, popular worldwide (and I mean truly worldwide, not just the western world), a mature musical genre (Black Sabbath released their first record in 1969), and an employer of thousands of people.
Relax, Cheryl. It's money well spent, nobody is hurting anyone, all they are doing is bringing a little pleasure, some music into people's lives. What could be wrong with that?Clesmos Tuesday 29 May, 2012 - 7:07 PM